through a period of time where zero tolerance was a popular political position for those who enforced our laws. we're now changing that for the good. our incarceration policies were wrong, not just the laws but how they were implemented, so now we're giving clearer direction that we want to end that policy, and i think we've taken steps to do it. i think joe biden understands that. he's been part of recognizing that we need to modernize our federal laws. a lot of this is at the state level, not the federal level, so we have to work with our state partners, so i have all the confidence that joe biden fully understands that, but going back 25 years ago. that was where we were then trying to deal with some national approximate and i think it was a good faith effort. >> senator ben cardin, thank you so much. >> thank you. the legacy of john mccain is becoming a political football after a democratic presidential candidate tells a story about the late senator.