second classmen rather than third classmen. normally, the third classmen go on leave right away, and the second classmen do the training. but west point's change and update. we always joke, i was there about how it had years and years of tradition, and ever since the academy was founded, the summer camps have been one of the strongest traditions. typically, there is training that occurs in june and july and august up there. so the new cadets are not there. these are cadets, the new cadets will report in some time at the end of june, early july. and these are the cadets who have finished one or two years there. >> general wesley clark, thank you so much for jumping on the phone. it's always horrible when we have to speak about something like this tragic news but i really appreciate your perspective. again, as i was mentioning earlier, we're hoping there will be more information coming in, possibly an update on what really happened here, throughout