debate on the extradition bill. we're waiting for carrie lam to speak to the press. >> steve, thank you very much. that's a very interesting conversation to follow with your guest. she was on a -- she is on a hunger strike and she says like your previous guest said the previous hour that they will continue to protest tomorrow regardless of what carrie lam announces today. now, it's ten minutes past 3:00 p.m. where you are. carrie lam was expected to speak at 3:00. i understand that she is currently meeting with pro-beijing lawmakers, so we expect to hear from her moments from now. we'll bring you that live. steve, i want to ask you, if she says what we are expecting her to say, and if the chief executive announces that she is postponing this controversial bill, will that mean that protesters have won? because the last two protesters you spoke to they said no, we'll still be back in the street