comparisons don't work well. and here we are back again nazi comparisons don't work that well. that being said, if there -- if 2020 is, you know, football in the arena. this is like some dudes out in the tailgate kind of bickering with each other about who's going to win the game. this is everyone picking their own side and, you know, rallying around their person, hypocrisy runs amok in these situations. i think that's what we're seeing again. and there's some real outrage out there, perhaps, but a lot of faux outrage, i would say. >> i think it's more serious than that. first of all, the holocaust is the holocaust. holocaust metaphors are beyond problematic. and it's unclear because she said never again means something. that she was referring to it. she said later she meant to make the comparison to internment camps. internment camps are horrible. the different is millions being murdered by a state. that doesn't fly. when we put it in context, we're saying words don't matter