secretary of defense. patrick shanahan, all this domestic violence was revealed in the past. it doesn't sound like he was the aggressor. it sounds like she was the person who was wrestling with mental health and substance abuse issues and was perhaps the violent instigator. however, what do we learn from all of this? should this have come out sooner? and by the way, why if she was the aggressor, why is it disqualifying for him? just because now we're learning it and it seems like it was a dark secret? >> he's removed himself from it. i have to say, just as a parent, i don't know why he'd put his family through that. when he put himself to be the deputy secretary, he should have known this would come out. >> but it didn't come out -- >> it should have. absolutely. we need to know. i do feel for him. i feel for his family. but i feel a lot more for the 1,359,000 active duty military