>> to what extent do you believe that the beat generation is related to the hippies? >> well, they're just -- >> what do they have in common? was this an evolution from one to the other? >> they're just the older ones. i'm 46 years old. these kids are 18. the beat generation was a generation of beatitude and pleasure in life and tenderness. i believe in order and piety. >> here's the progenitor of the counterculture kind of disowning his own babies and trying to make sense of a decade he didn't feel pairy to. >> a dionysian movement which i did not intend. this was pure, in my heart. >> all sorts of people have been writing various articles about the hippies, usually about the hippies as if they were animals,