we know what it is in court. they have rape kits and all these invasive often harrowing experiences that women say matches the original violation because they need a standard of proof. i get it. i get it. not comfortable. imperfect. that's where we are. >> 20-some, that's a lot of woman. >> look, i'm just saying the same people who had this endless appetite for the details of the adultery, who was it and when and why and the morality of this. and projecting the puritanical notion of what people should be that they don't live themselves. >> simple. >> now you can't say anything that makes them want to see it be perceived. this woman accuses him of rape. nothing short of it. >> right. serious stuff. listen, i got to say, and i'm not being snarky, just when you're done, go to the dictionary and google hypocrisy. plain and simple. that's what you're talking about. that's all that's happening right now. fitting your morals to where you want them. not a certain set. >> we're in a weird place. >> we are.