mueller as as well as we do and don't at this point, that he will weigh bill barr has spoken publicly and bill barr did give that interview recently in terms of what mueller is willing to say in testimony? >> i think absolutely not. i think what you're going to see from bob mueller the kind of testimony the president of the united states should have given. meaning it's going to be factual, concise. he's not going to characterize or spin. he's going to stick to the facts. now, he may again -- follow-up questions are important, the precision of questions are important. he could be asked here's a quote from attorney general barr, agree, disagree, explain it. and by going that route he will be able to add in details that probably go beyond the report. if you directly ask him to characterize something, he's not going to. >> by the way, wouldn't you expect he'll be asked things outside of the report, namely frump republicans who will