she's good as saying i'm fighting for you and against those bad guys. >> she's got a story. >> right. whether the bad guys are the corporations, oil companies, google, amazon, whatever it is, and donald trump is good at that. he's very good at that. i'm fighting for you against the bad guys, and the bad guys might be the democrats or whoever it is. and she has that same skill. >> yeah, i think -- >> it works for her. >> it works for her. i do think that klobuchar did herself some good, though, because she's not as well known. we know her because we're all political geeks and nerds, like you said, but i think she did herself some good. first of all, she was always able to sneak in a little bit of a folksy thing. you can see why republicans are voting for her. people who voted for trump voted for her in her state. he's all foam and no beer. talking about my uncle in the duck blind or whatever. it seemed authentic. it seemed real. i do think we look at it from a certain point of view. i do think you've got some people out there looking at this party saying, jeez, i don't like donald trump but i don't know if i can trust all these crazy