is what is going on and she's not sure. this poll to me indicates that she should say i should have a public option, we should not get rid of a private insurance plan. >> and it's a problem for sanders, for warren, for harris, not a problem for biden. i think we're going to hear a lot more about that from the vp. >> this is the type of thing that joe biden should go after. because this he can say i defend obamacare. obama is loved by democrats. and this overall is very, very key. >> you cannot have the aca, obamacare, if you want, and any of these versionings of this plan. both will not co-exist. it doesn't work. so it's one or the other. >> this is the key. this is the key. >> thank you very much, my friend. i appreciate it. we'll talk about whether you get to use the writing anymore. this was a step back for you. that's all i'm going to say. >> in college i used a computer all the time. maybe i can use a computer out here. we'll bring a typewriter out. manual typewriter, i'll punch it one by one. >> we're going to bring back the white board. that's how i trained up. all right. so, this story matters, okay?