weakness, there really isn't a lot on the other side of the ledger that would make you go to the mattresses to defend alex acosta as your labor secretary. >> what do you think, laura? >> we have an tendency to compartmentalize. this is not an incident to do so. it is an inconsistency to have had a laps of judgement that would have allowed you to give a sweetheart deal, including to people who are unnamed coconspirators who served as facilitators and madams of child pornography, molestation and pedophilia, which is really what it is. i hate the phrase underage girls because it seems to connote something other than what it is, child molestation and pedophilia from somebody with money who didn't -- now the laps in judgement would have to be a total 180 to who he is now. and also there is a lot of information, and we're learning as this case goes on to suggest that it was more than simply a