he wins iowa. he does better in new hampshire and so forth. if one of them starts to fade and sanders is showing signs of this, if those people then go to warren, he's going to be -- it's going to be very much more competitive for biden or happen alternatively if sanders picks up, he's a competitor. one thing joe biden doesn't want is to go mano el mano. e h li he likes the five. >> trump can have it big. >>kamala harris, one would assume that was a calculate assault. >> i totally agree. >> she delivered on that. >> and she delivered on one other thing. she delivers on command presence that works well. >> it certainly did and obviously, you know, able to have a conversation. thank you, david. next, biden says he's ready to battle trump and he's not talking about the ballot box.