>> no, and that's why he's doing this because he doesn't have anythi anything. >> he's choosing not to because he would rather run having a foil. that's the way he operates all the time. i was -- i tuned into some of my old conservative talk radio friends to hear what they were saying and they are saying trump is the victim and that's right, these people need to love it or leave it. that's the idea and you saw with that horrendous send her back chant, when i heard that in the green shivers down my spine because it's ugliness and took me to the torches in charlottesville. what is next? >> they start with one person. >> very dangerous. >> or one group and move on to the next group and the next group and becomes larger and larger and you find out wait a minute, i'm now in a group that