i have read about him and he's not -- he's a -- he's an arab. he's not -- >> no, ma'am. he's a decent family man, citizen, that i just happen to have disagreements with. >> now, this president may say that he doesn't like john mccain, but he has never equalled him in that moment. that woman, is a trumper. he is stoking those feelings right now and he's doing it to advantage and he's right to say there are a lot of people who will go agree with what he's doing. the question is, how do you counter and win? let's bring in congresswoman pramila jayapal. welcome back to "prime time." i want to talk to you about what your party is doing with health care. i think it's a metaphor issue. you got to get straight on it. this is your bigger challenge, the reason this president says i'll tell you my health care plan after the 2020 election, is