since the debates but this has been a central theme of her campaign from the beginning months ago, early on this year. a speech that she gave in michigan, she very much hit back against the electability question, back against the fact that, oh, there isn't enough attention being paid to black and brown voters and saying pretty much in a way subtly then taking jabs at candidacies like biden's which is much more focused on not overtly talking about race and focusing on the midwest and other voters that -- white rural voters that flipped to trump last time. so her candidacy as well as warren's, they're very much trying to aggressively talk about black and brown voters and how their policies would specifically help them because they think that will be successful. >> and one of the trends you saw in 2016 was a real dip in terms of african-american turnout. it was down -- the rate of african-american turnout, which had been at historic levels with obama, dropped about 7