anything more. >> they were actually prosecuted and evidence was found that has not occurred yet. >> it has occurred in the southern district he was individual one and they chose not to -- he should be with michael cohen up the river wherever it is and in this case, if it weren't -- first he said mueller said the elements were there and it was only olc opinion, obviously counsel stopped him. he came back when he got to intel committee and said i phrased that wrong, blah, blah, blah. think about this, anderson. he said he could be indicted after he leaves the presidency and he said that one of the things about getting the evidence and preserving it is you get the evidence when it's fresh in people's minds, their recollection is the best and they are the best witnesses and so you get that and you keep it for sometime. you don't keep that if there is not a crime. >> do you believe mueller's first answer to congressman lieu was what he felt. >> what he felt and what