and they took off. a very unexpected situation for us here, but a challenge for the police around this area because if i try to put a distance on it. the crime scene is probably just shy of a mile long. >> yeah. it's an awful situation. are folks okay there? what are you seeing from those that have survived, obviously, this mass shooting and we were out there and you could tell that the law enforcement was processing people out as we've unfortunately come to see here in all of this video, they isolate the mall and the malls roll down the gates and the shoppers come out with their hands up and they're isolated in different zones and really, for the entire morning that they were out there, it was -- they were very much the walking wounded. they had a glazed look in their eye and they had conversations muted either way, yes, i'm okay. they're over there. it was a very somber situation. not necessarily rushed, but it was -- you could tell that