and today national review, which is a mainstream publication, the quote, unquote bible of conservatives, runs an article accusing me of being a self-hating white who is stoking the flames of racial hatred. this is the language of white supremacists which is appearing in a mainstream conservative publication. so there's a lot of sentiment that donald trump is tapping into, and unfortunately he's finding a lot of support on the right even as he's venturing into horrible xenophobic and racist territory. >> kirsten, what was that audible exasperating moment you just had? >> it's so insane to describe max that way. you know, and national review, yes, which was once a mainstream conservative publication, to be writing something like that, i think "the new york times" has an exhautive write-up today about all the connections between the types of language, the dehumanizing and racist language that showed up in, you know, the manifesto of somebody who murdered, you know,