thinking about the harm that it could do. >> you say you were a lackadaisical student, a passionate basketball player of limited talent, and an incessant, dedicated partier. nostudent government for me, no eagle scouts or interning a at the local congressman's office. >> i have to be careful not to overstate. i was not going around beating kids up. >> i get it. >> and, you know, setting things on fire. but i understood what it meant to not have a father in the house. i understood what it meant to be in an environment in which you were an outsider. in a way, one difference between me and these young men was there weren't a lot of black people generally at the time. and -- >> you also were growing up, before that, in indonesia as an outsider.