they have to prop it up, use blocks to hold it up, send cameras in and dogs in and go step by step. that is the reality. this is the other fire. could it be a mattress? they don't know. they can't go in. and it's very dangerous to get around it. they have a team of engineers and experts to determine how to go in safely. the men and women want to go in. these are the men and women who run into that scenario that scares us to want to stay way. but it has to be safe, because gore fod forbid we lose more people that are in there already. that is the reality of state of play. i just walked it. and all i know is what i saw. and what i saw would be what i would want to see if i was waiting for answers. so now let's get the details on the granular, from the coffee of the city of miami fire rescue task force to assisting with the operations, joe zaralbin. chief z., we've been together