a huge challenge not only from the engineering standpoint but also organizing production perhaps reorganizing production and also of course stemming all the money that has to be stemmed for for financing all of this together i think the two see a chance to get ahead of the game for from other companies and especially from the v.w. side cost saving will be a big motive for entering into such a venture. and among those other companies in driving vehicles for example. we're getting conflicting signals today about plans to go public something that was a big goal for the past year what can you tell us. that's right apparently over filed for an i.p.o. confidentially with as you see in new york at the end of last year and now the c.e.o. of a cause for a rally is saying that well we don't really need the money you know if it's not convenient if it's not the right conditions then we could go without it for two