banks. and investment banks so just the blanket statements cover people that don't deserve to be under them. >> mike: how does a person make money like you have? do you do it by guessing right? you bought companies and then would make them profitable. how do you do that? >> for us, like i said, this has been somewhat of a miracle your for me. it's meant to be for this moment in time to show people what needs to get done to save employment in this country. we literally buy companies that other people will toss away. heap of creative destruction. unprofitable, they don't deserve to live. we take the same companies, a lot of them american icon brand. we have to rationalize and cut expenses, sometimes we