>> bill: you listened to him, right? >> of course i did like i listened to a lot of other advisors. in the book makes it clear sometimes he agreed with my decisions and sometimes he didn't agree with my decisions but always he helped implement the decisions and never did he go behind my back and. >> bill: it was straight up. >> i make it clear to the reader, this is important, that i made the right choice in picking him in 2000. and i feel the same way as i sit and talk to you. >> the press probably hated him more than they hated you. and he, unlike you, pushed back a little bit did. you ever discuss the press between you? >> occasionally you know. we will -- couldn't believe what so and so said. you might remember the famous moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on. i was referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. you know, when you are with friends inside the white house there was people that you can