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does matter. >> oh, and, indeed it does. one small dime. the edge of a dime. that's about a 16th of an inch and today that was a problem. in 24 illinois counties and in the illinois' second largest city. the stiff aurora at least some of the ballots were a 16th of an inch too wide. that meant after they filled in the ovals they didn't fit into the optical scanning machines. as problems go for election officials that was a new one on them. >> i have never had that happen before. we have run smooth voting machine here when we open doors. but this morning just that much, curled up on the edges in the ballot box would not take them. >> we're told that some election officials trimmed the edges to make them fit. some are hand counting them. some are reconstructing ballots it all means that vote totals will probably be a bit delayed. shep? >> shepard: sounds like it. steve brown live nape perville, illinois tonight. much more to come in this evening. heck in live at rick santorum's headquarters which
>> i'm not sure how you compare him to other vice presidents. >> bill: you listened to him, right? >> of course i did like i listened to a lot of other advisors. in the book makes it clear sometimes he agreed with my decisions and sometimes he didn't agree with my decisions but always he helped implement the decisions and never did he go behind my back and. >> bill: it was straight up. >> i make it clear to the reader, this is important, that i made the right choice in picking him in 2000. and i feel the same way as i sit and talk to you. >> the press probably hated him more than they hated you. and he, unlike you, pushed back a little bit did. you ever discuss the press between you? >> occasionally you know. we will -- couldn't believe what so and so said. you might remember the famous moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on. i was referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. you know, when you are with friends inside the white house
>> bill: you listened to him, right? >> of course i did like i listened to a lot of other advisors. in the book makes it clear sometimes he agreed with my decisions and sometimes he didn't agree with my decisions but always he helped implement the decisions and never did he go behind my back and. >> bill: it was straight up. >> i make it clear to the reader, this is important, that i made the right choice in picking him in 2000. and i feel the same way as i sit and talk to you. >> the press probably hated him more than they hated you. and he, unlike you, pushed back a little bit did. you ever discuss the press between you? >> occasionally you know. we will -- couldn't believe what so and so said. you might remember the famous moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on. i was referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. you know, when you are with friends inside the white house there was people that you can
>> bill: you listened to him, right? >> of course i did like i listened to a lot of other advisors. in the book makes it clear sometimes he agreed with my decisions and sometimes he didn't agree with my decisions but always he helped implement the decisions and never did he go behind my back and. >> bill: it was straight up. >> i make it clear to the reader, this is important, that i made the right choice in picking him in 2000. and i feel the same way as i sit and talk to you. >> the press probably hated him more than they hated you. and he, unlike you, pushed back a little bit did. you ever discuss the press between you? >> occasionally you know. we will -- couldn't believe what so and so said. you might remember the famous moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on. i was referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. you know, when you are with friends inside the white house there was people that you can
>> you might remember the moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on and referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. but i was aware of what was in the press. i generally ignored the opinion because by the time i ended it was very predictable. >> bill: even mine. >> of course i listened to yours all the time it became the whole crux of the bush administration. [ laughter ] >> bill: your father. how often did you call him when you were in the white house for advice? >> yeah. not very often for advice. but i talked to him often to try to comfort him. >> bill: why didn't you seek his ad vice? former president? >> because he knew that i had better information at the time than he would have known. and he understood what it meant to be president. the president gets a lot of advice. some of it unsolicited. a lot of it from inside the white house. but he also knew when the heat
>> you might remember the moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on and referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. but i was aware of what was in the press. i generally ignored the opinion because by the time i ended it was very predictable. >> bill: even mine. >> of course i listened to yours all the time it became the whole crux of the bush administration. [ laughter ] >> bill: your father. how often did you call him when you were in the white house for advice? >> yeah. not very often for advice. but i talked to him often to try to comfort him. >> bill: why didn't you seek his ad vice? former president? >> because he knew that i had better information at the time than he would have known. and he understood what it meant to be president. the president gets a lot of advice. some of it unsolicited. a lot of it from inside the white house. but he also knew when the heat gets on and the heat was on
>> you might remember the moment in nape perville, illinois and the mike was on and referring to some press guy. occasionally there was grousing. but i was aware of what was in the press. i generally ignored the opinion because by the time i ended it was very predictable. >> bill: even mine. >> of course i listened to yours all the time it became the whole crux of the bush administration. [ laughter ] >> bill: your father. how often did you call him when you were in the white house for advice? >> yeah. not very often for advice. but i talked to him often to try to comfort him. >> bill: why didn't you seek his ad vice? former president? >> because he knew that i had better information at the time than he would have known. and he understood what it meant to be president. the president gets a lot of advice. some of it unsolicited. a lot of it from inside the white house. but he also knew when the heat gets on and the heat was on
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