imperfect -- >> that's not the procedure. that's why i sent a letter saying take away budget gimmicks then what is the answer? >> greta: cbo nonpartisan? >> >> greta: not out to get you? >> no. >> greta: the new chairman of the budget committee, what is going to happen next machine or two? >> the spending spree is over. we are going to start cutting spending and get back to normalcy. we started today by cutting our own budgets. >> greta: you don't have furniture. i'm teasing. >> we cut our own by 5%. yesterday we put in rule that say if you want to increase spending you have to cut somewhere else. in the past if congress wanted to pass an amendment like to a bridge to nowhere they can cancel but that had to be spent somewhere else in government new york where. if you want to pass an amendment to get rid of a wasteful program that guess in the deficit. they changed the culture of