going in private insurance. they're not going to be on the federal programs, medicare and medicaid. but the medicaid and medicare programs will see prevention as part of the program. we all know and certainly my friend dr. fleming knows, if you're able to do prevention, that's early care, for example, diabetes or blood pressure, you will be able to reduce the cost of medical services over time and so those kinds of reductions at the -- on those programs that are federal are real. now, the 33 million are almost entirely in the private insurance sector and those will not be on the federal budget issues. it is the congressional budget office that has made the estimate that this program will save $230 billion over the next nine years. how they come to that conclusion, you can go back and forth on. but that is the conclusion of the independent nonpartisan congressional budget office. >> all right.
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