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leadership. he says the united states has become the laughing stock of the world, and he could turn that around because he's well acquainted with winning, and that does a appeal to a sort of populist sentiment in the united states. >> well, we democrats hope so because if this republican primary is grizzly mom versus the donald, it's just another reality show. [laughter] and, i mean, i just -- brad, you know, brad and i agree on this, this guy's not qualified to be president of the united states. megyn: why not? why isn't he? >> what's interesting -- why not? well, as brad pointed out, a couple bankruptcies. the research on him, all you have to do is go to people magazine. [laughter] this guy's not qualified to be president of the united states. but, you know, i said sarah palin wasn't qualified to be vice president of the united states, so who knows what the republican party will do. what is interesting is that cpac, this very conservative, very influential group loves this guy, and i think, brad, this is the problem -- >> no, they don't love him, dick, come on. they don't love him.

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