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$8 billion budget shortfall. >> if we get that done, we balance our budget, $8 billion in the hole, without a tax increase, and we cut taxes on income taxes, that's going to send a message to the rest of the country that if they can do it there, they can do it in their state, and then maybe, guess what, they might actually be able to do something like this in washington. we at least hope so. >> reporter: we are very early on in the process here. this is only a senate committee hearing. hasn't even been introduced in the house kwrefplt but republicans dominate the state legislature here, so things could move very, very quickly. the outcome is subject to change, with some amendments and the voice of protestors who gather later today might have a big effect on the outcome. martha. martha: thank you, we'll keep an eye on it, doug, thank you. bill: the white house is organizing for americans helping push back against the legislation in ohio. president obama had previously called the wisconsin measure an assault on unions. both wisconsin and ohio, key battle ground states won by

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