religion, there are a lot of different interpretations of the scripture. you know, there are fundamentalists christians and then there are christians who don't take it literally that take it as a metaphor. >> don't use that as an excuse. >> bill: i'm not using it as excuse. >> jihad. personal journey. they are talking about killing me and you. >> bill: there are peaceful muslims, juan you would agree with me. >> absolutely. most muslims. >> bill: they are not incited to blow anybody up. >> picking up on mary katharine's point people are using that document as justification for violent action. >> bill: no doubt about it? >> only if you are a liberal though. >> bill: plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. holder approves dumbed down tests for police officers in ohio. but the naacp condemns the action. megyn kelly is investigating. then, bernie goldberg on the npr scandal, is the left-wing media playing that down?