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whether we admit it or not. and the army that's best at doing this, boots on the ground, training forces on the ground, is the american army and marine corps. in my opinion, the only way this rag-tag army is going to survive is with the support, not just of the french and british, but some american involvement. >> you don't see from a military standpoint, the fact that there are defectors in the inner circle, around khadafy, in terms of who has the bigger problem, it's the rebels on the run, untrained, have no weapons, as opposed to khadafy? >> i think it's both. the man on the streets is trying to determine which side to jump on. he sees the khadafy inner circle crumbling or the ground truth, the army that's incapable of operating against khadafy's forces. so right now, it's a tossup. if the rebel army was doing well, this would be on over in a week. >> what do you think -- or maybe you know -- is the military leadership view of what's going on here and how the president's

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