serious matter and he grew up very quickly. whereas harry was left to one side and able to live as a small child and behave like a child. william was never allowed that and he was always shy and studious and took his role very seriously as a young boy. >> martha: and really as a leader in the family, as was spoken about before, diana turned to him almost like a grown man when he was ten, 12 years old and said, i have to talk to william about that and i'll have to get his approval on this and that because she didn't have that from charles, perhaps. so he really grew up very quickly. >> yeah. he didn't have is a childhood. he did grow up very quickly. you're right. and diana did treat her boys like -- she called them her little men and they were little men when they were little boys. >> martha: and he watched over harry and he's been concerned about harry. >> shepard: the world has really. there have been moments. we don't need to go through them, but harry has given us all some great moments. >> harry has his mother's joy for life. harry likes to have fun. why shouldn't he?