ultimate release of the hiker, and that's he said since things are out of the hands of the judiciary, which is viewed in iran as sort of holy and sacred and not touchable and it goes into the political arena, then march progress mattic decisions can be made, clearly iran, hoping to gain something for this if indeed it happens. again, no done deal, jon, but very good signs. jon onand it was an eight-year sentence they're facing, right? >> eight-year sentence, right, eight years. yes. jon: amy kellogg, thank you. jenna: for more on this, and amy touched on an important point at the end there, p.j. crowley joins us via skype and p.j., amy just said the sentencing was key to at least clearing the road to potentially seeing these two americans go free. do you agree with that? >> i absolutely agree with that. you have to understand the context two years ago. the hikers literally walked into a post-election crisis in iran, based on the stolen