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so what moron would blame republicans for the current economic epidemic -- current problems we have in the economic region? allall right. let's get back to the debate. kirsten, when i said to laura, laura knows this is true, that each of the candidates -- this is the problem with these early debates -- has an agenda. they each have something their handlers tell them. you have to do this. in order to survive, michelle bachman has got to destroy rick perry tonight. she has to because all of michelle bachman's support she's now down to single digits in many polls, has gone to perry. she's got to go after him. rick santorum obviously doesn't like perry. he's going to get him on the immigration issue. does that do americans any good? >> no. but i don't know if these debates necessarily do americans good in that sense, but santorum has the same interest that michelle bachman has. they're going for the same exact voters. we've seen that already. we've seen michelle bachman last time go after him on the hpv

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