and so many people are going come on, we have to have a winner. >> come on. >> that's what people are saying. >> a lot of the establishment people were saying we had a winner months ago and now they're changing their tune because it might look like they might go on and on a little bit. i think to a certain extent, some americans want to see this go on and on because they're just -- because they're just not sure about who they want to support. >> isn't that the nature of what this is, though? we don't have the one that everyone wants and there's no one coalescing behind one because maybe there isn't one that deserves or who -- who should be the nominee to go up against president obama. >> right. and the person who is surging right now is rick santorum and, you know, how much do we really know about rick santorum? we don't know that much so to sarah palin's point, it's great that the process keeps going because that way we can learn more about him which, you know, some stuff is coming up. >> but the establishment doesn't want that. >> who is the establishment? who is the establishment? >> the people who have been in d.c. for a very long time.