>> juan: in the factor flashback segment tonight, a good friday encore of bill's interview with the most powerful catholic cleric in the country timothy cardinal dolland. as you may know the obama administration is demanding that all catholic hospitals and universities cover birth control in their health insurance plan. the church bitterly opposes that. and the relationship between the president and the church is strained. cardinal dolland met with president obama last november. the meeting did not go well. as the cardinal explained to bill. >> i don't want to act like i'm judging the president. i don't know. there are those who tell me that i was mislead. there are those who tell me that you simply misunderstood. >> bill: they haven't backed off and you have a number of options that you can challenge. however, the church basically is in a position now of promoting an unpopular