conducted a joint missile program and the iranian long-range missiles are north korean missiles with a bit of paint on them which is a problem for us because if they want to deal with iran we have to deal with north address and put them in the box because if we don't, the iranians will see a big green light for their ambitions. >>shepard: history tells us they will do a nuclear test. we are led to believe they have been building tunnels. >>guest: intelligence has been passing around satellite photos that show dirt coming from the tunnel at a site they conducted the two previous nuclear detonations. they have to do this and they have a joint program with the iranians and this is important for them. >>shepard: kim jong-un and conditions over how he could react. it is my understanding that he believed, he was low tide believe by the closest advisors this was going to work. period. >>guest: that is why they had reporters from 50 countries on site and that is why the