have seen as we are well above 14,000. with the latest nonunion workers it doesn't need to be approved in bankruptcy court. not good news for them. delta tried to push through an industry-wide air fair hike. delta raised last minute fairs between 10-20 dollars round trip. the other carriers didn't follow suit. looks like what would have been a industry-wide air fair hike isn't happening. air fair is up 5 percent this year patti ann. >> if you are in the market for a car we have the best one for your value. >> if you want it to be worth something five years from now. he had mondays.com has the 2012 list out. the winner is the honda. especially the key mainstream category maintaining 48 percent of the value. civic beat out the toyota prius in the high prixed market. luxury vehicles the winner was the acura.