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a person that knows us that wouldn't agree that we wouldn't have given the ball to that child. he and his fiancee combined have seven kids. kind of a brady bunch thing. shep? >> shepard: trace gallagher. one more question though. the boy's parents said that you know, they didn't know, right? they didn't know at all but they still wanted their story. >> right. as you look at the video again you kind of have to decide for yourself. the ball is tossed in the stands, several people who scramble for it he tosses t in and the guy who picks up the ball, look at the kid now, he grabbed the ball. the first thing he does is looks to his fiancee. the kid starts crying almost immediately. is he not looking at him and then when he turns that way his kid has got his face turned it the other way and they say they could not hear the boy crying with the 47,000 fans. and the boy's mom agrees they are a nice couple. listen. >> we were talking like i said about the ball and then he said well, you know, if you hadn't got that ball i was

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