save schools $600 million over two years. in the new berlin school district to take one example they are using those savings to hire more staff, reduce class size and add programs. what is more important? i ask this to both of you. let me start specifically with you mr. van roekel, what is more important to the e.e.a., protection to teachers or giving services to students? >> in wisconsin it wasn't about the economy, it was political decision. the unions did agree to pay more in pensions and health care in wisconsin. governor walker even though he accepted that he didn't end there. >> they did save money and they are giving more to the students. >> we advocate for students and employees. the success of students in america are dependent they are well-trained and hopefully