diverse open and accessible, also a working convention. >> chris: why do you think this will be a tough election? >> well, it is going to be a tough election for a lot of reasons. one, the country is evenly divided and has been for a long time. two, we had a banner year in 2008 and obviously are not going to have that kind of year this time around. they have a lot of money and raising over a billion three in -- super pa prime minister s super pacs that engage in super smears. i think in the end we are going to win. >> chris: thanks for joining us. good luck, sir. >> thank you. >> chris: up next, president obama campaigns his way to charlotte. we will ask our sunday group what he and his heart have to do here to boost their chances for another victory in november as we continue from the site of the democratic national convention.