war. >> i'm not going to let you say that. >> sean: wait, mark. let's talk about that. he accused our troops not only after vietnam but in the iraq war of committing atrocities. he was wrong in both cases, and the point is should that. >> ab grea abu great should thee hearings? >> the totality of his experience -- john kerry served honorably. he spoke his co conscience whene came from vietnam and he spoke his conscience on the iraq war. >> and he said untrue things in both instances. >> you can say they're untrue and i'm sure you have a big disagreement with things. >> torture in the dark of night? he's got to explain that. >> so answer your question, sawn, isean, it should absolutey considered. he's not qualified for secretary of defense. >> i find this humerous. a lot of republican senators