me is to understand what it is you're affecting. i grew up alongside soldiers over the last decade. i served in combat with countless professionals and that's what marty dempsey is talking about. there are necessarily going to be reductions in defense spending and if they're responsibly done as secretary gate laid out, that's probably fine. if you do a sequestration, that's an irresponsible way to cut and suddenly, you can't cut every part of the defense budget. many parts of them are protected for various reasons. so as marty laid out, you gut people, and when you gut human capital you'll pay a price that can't be caught up for a generation. >> mike: and the difference with sequestration, there's no discretion, it's an across the board, you cut everywhere. it's almost like going into an operating room and instead of surgery removing a tumor we're going to lose 20 pounds of flesh out of this body without regard where it's coming from. that's kind of what this problem is, isn't it? >> it's actually worse than that because instead of giving
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