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thumping comment. that's fine. if you want to be angry at me. people angry at me about a lot of stuff. what i said was not inaccurate or insulting on any level. it was descriptive. go. >> yes. and i agree with you on that. i want to make this point. the week before with our segment why were talking about gay marriage. there was no controversy. and you made the same comment except without the bible thumper phrase. you were saying, look, the secular -- if you are going to oppose gay marriage in largely secular nations then you have to offer up some compelling secular arguments. >> bill: that's the gist of it if you want to make the argument your constitutional and societal argument has to be stronger than the other side. what do you think about these guys exploiting the bible thumper comment? what do you think about that? >> any time if you are on a secular program like this. any time you invoke god, jesus, the bible it's going to spark controversy. >> bill: you are dodging my question. >> no, i'm not. >> bill: i said what do you think about the guys

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