she waived her right to the fifth amendment privilege by issuing an opening statement. she ought to stand here and answer our questions. >> sir, you misled congress, misled congress. make no question about it. you told us one thing, when you learned that our suspicions were true, when you learned that there was a list, you did nothing. >> you sure you didn't talk to "ñ the white house about this issue, mr. shulman? >> about singling out conservative groups for special scrutiny? >> well, that's what we're talking about, isn't it? >> i'm absolutely sure i did not talk to -- >> 118 visits, it didn't come up in a casual conversation after 132 members of concocted about s contacted you about it? >> not to my memory. >> what would be some of the reasons you were at the white house? >> the easter egg roll with my kids. questions about the admability of tax policy they were thinking of.