funded by the government. john: and the greeks actually mocked him for being backwards about that? >> yes, of course they did last anywhere near as long. >> you have educated us about welfare and the handouts. do you see parallels with rome? >> yes, if you take a look at roman society that started to dictate, it is not just because of theewelfare state and the people on the bottom, it is also because the people on the top who isolated lives from the rest. i find parallels in the united states versus rome very interesting. >> 's. john: we have a lot of unintended consequences. we just get rid of it? you're pretty hard-core, i assume. should america get rid of all