do something and should care. here you're saying should we care? >> i think he was just asking a question. >> that's fair. i'm following its up. >> what greg just said about it, a governmentless country is a potential real serious threat to the united states. i agree. >> it should be a uniting factor for countries like america and russia. we should be uniting against something like this. we have the same problems. >> correct. >> i agree on those part wills. >> terrorism doesn't live in a bubble. it takes the path of less resistance. we roll it back and act like it's not our problem, we're losing badly. >> when you say hands off, what do you mean? ronald reagan, peace through strength. >> yeah but strong military and defense systems that had impact. >> whatever it takes strong but not necessarily attacking -- >> and gathering intell.