guess. i'm not a touchy, i'm not a feeley guy. that's probably why i quit psychiatry. if you're not into feelings and emotions and all the back storym then you ought to be doing something else. >> so in 1978, he took a government job in washington atn what would become the national institute of mental health. it wasn't what he really wanted. but it put him in the rightit p neighborhood. >> i thought once i'm in washington, isn't that where they do politics? one thing will lead to another. >> his folks worried about their son tossing away a doctor's live liehood.doct but didn't discourage him.dn't his wife, rob am, who would leave her career in law to her become a paintser and sculptor, urged imto follow his -- him to follow his dream. >> she was the one who 35 years ago encouraged me to follow my heart and with her wit and humor and generosity and spirit, has