abortion. that's why notre dame filed the lawsuit. >> are there students at notre dame that disagree with the lawsuit and think they ought to provide contraception? >> of course. of course. i've engaged other students and they're -- what they're saying is this is a matter of a woman's access to contraceptive coverage. one person engaged me and said contraception costs a lot of money. $2, and workers at notre dame don't make a lot of money so the university should cover it. but what we have to remember is that this isn't about a woman's access to contraception. this is about religious liberty, and notre dame maintaining its integrity. and not being compromised by the federal government. >> i think it's important to realize, when people say they're restricting access. they're not restricting access. they're determining who pays for it. >> exactly. >> i can go to a movie theater -- i have access to go, but i got to buy my own ticket.