do what they are supposed to do. >> edward snowden feels me made an impact. i feel he did. court decisions have come down thanks to those that says they have overstepped. we have the national discussion in congress and among the population about the respect sof privacy versus national security. >> at what cost. >> it is great discussion to have. lars and i tend to agree but disagree and i respect people that don't agree. the problem for me is edward snowden himself. there have been people from the country that have made revelations and stood and lived