factor". >> but you're an emotional mess, i'm a rock. >> where does it take place? >> you know whatever he wants, the red room, the green room. >> always the lesser being walks in first, that is me. that is me. >> interesting, because on your show, you walk in first, i walk in second. >> the lesser being -- >> so put down your pen, there is a power brokerage thing that happens in the hand shake. but men tend to do like -- >> no, no grabbing -- i'm not a grabber or a hugger, as you know. i don't grab or hug. a firm hand shake, there is eye contact, and it is like a boxing match. when the two boxers go into the center of the ring, that is exactly the way it is when an alpha interviews an alpha. it is a boxing match, okay, you look at them and go okay the bell is going to ring, it's on. >> how do you stop them from